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Lord Fitz
Antares Fleet Yards
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.16 10:29:00 -
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 Originally by: Barbicane
On the other hand, isn't this one of those cases where they would fix it first and tell us later, to avoid market manipulation?
Not saying I think they will fix it in this patch... just that whenever they do, it won't be in the patch notes.
Since they have taken it off the market, that's unlikely to be the case.
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Lord Fitz
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.17 18:36:00 -
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Market value would be hard to determine, even though it's worth less now, the only thing I think they could do would be to give those LP and isk back that the original player paid. Mind you if that's too hard at least some isk payout would be desirable. Since this implant is seemingly never going to do anything.
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Lord Fitz
Antares Fleet Yards
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Posted - 2008.06.28 07:46:00 -
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Originally by: Demtalin le'Mercennaire
Well everyone does complain that eve needs some serious isk sinks, maybe people should be encouraged to buy these before they are removed.
Infact, why not get 3 each.
Primarily because they removed them from the market / and their ability to be contracted. You 'can't' get more of them, that's their solution to the problem so far, leave the people with them as the only ones affected and ignore it.
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2008.07.17 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Carniflex
Originally by: Devilish Ledoux
I'm sure they'll fix it SoonÖ*.
*never
As soon as as they have fixsed pos labs copy use for alliance. 1.5 years and still ticking ;)
They are working as intended. They were never meant to allow copy usage. (And you'll note they never even said they would 'fix' them because they never 'worked' in the first place). - No, a procedure that requires a GM to intervene because you're doing something they didn't intend isn't 'working'.
IMO they need to sort that out as part of a complete overhaul of POS and hangar permissions etc. The system is just too inflexible for what people need to do with it. No one needed to control POS guns, or use other peoples hangars when corp roles were first introduced.
This has to be a record for the longest time after they said it would be fixed that something hasn't been. I mean, seriously, just give everyone the LP + isk back (even though many of us paid more in isk for the implants) or free gametime and be done with it. If you're going to fix something, 3 months should be the limit. After that write it off and move on.
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2008.09.26 20:38:00 -
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This is ridiculous really, they need to just give the LP + isk value of it back (even though most of us paid alot more than they are now worth). If they'd done that in the first place instead of waiting well over a year to do nothing, it would be a non issue! We've deployed how many new features while this bug has gone untouched ?
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2008.11.05 11:20:00 -
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sooo. 10 months ago there was an apology for having to wait the first 8 months ?
Can we seriously just get these changed for LP + isk. I mean, LP were worth so much more when we got these, even that seems ridiculous by now. This is something that should have happened day 1. Whoops, didn't mean to release those, reimburse and at least people wouldn't have too much to complain about an honest mistake. But this is just really poor community management.
Originally by: CCP t0rfifrans
CCP is a greedy money chewing monster
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2008.12.15 15:08:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Fitz on 15/12/2008 15:08:46
Originally by: Sedecimdiad
still think that the ivention chance calculation should be released so we can actually see what effects it most
http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/invention_chance.php < This. People who have done thousands of runs, including the original creator of the formula have it checking out. It isn't going to be off by any amount that matters, and is quite probably 100% spot on.
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2009.01.10 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas
Edited by: Arimathea Anthalas on 10/01/2009 02:15:15
This issue has been open for 528 days.
That's 1 year, 5 months, and 9 days.[/b][/center]
No, look at the first post in this thread. It's been open since MAY 2007. That is almost 1 year 8 months.
When these were mistakenly introduced, CCP needed to offer reimbursement for isk and LP (at the NPC value). Since then the value of LP has declined dramatically, so even that would be a kick in the kneecaps, but still better than nothing. Many many months ago these were prevented from being sold on the market / contracts (This to me is an admission that the entire issue has been indefinitely shelved by CCP) and only the last patch were they removed from our clones heads, having been stuck there taking up valuable space for nothing (but risking being lost) for almost 2 years.
This is just silly. Either they can be made to do something worthwhile in a timely manner, or they need to be reimbursed, at LEAST an admission that they have given up, we have had major expansion after major expansion since these were released, and we can't even get something as simple as a reimbursement.
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2009.01.11 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: OSGOD
hehe actually in my country as a paying customer CCP could be charged 4 theft even robery as a paying cuctomer the items you buy 4 isk and deleted or changed bye CCP means your hard earned cash (RL money paid 4 game) has been taken under false pretenses ,it is long over due 4 countries legislature to be brought into the 21 cent to protect gamers from thes criminal acts perfermed buy game companies in the name of game flo or lag busting
Good luck with that. The EULA says that they always own it all, and the only legal challenges to it have failed, even when someone actually did pay real money for in game items. (which is much less of a grey area than what you propose).
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2009.01.12 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas
530 days
1 year, 5 months, 11 days
45,792,000 seconds
763,200 minutes
12,720 hours
75 weeks (rounded down)
MAY 2007
1) June 2007
2) July 2007
3) August 2007
4) September 2007
5) October 2007
6) November 2007
7) December 2007
7 months right?
All of 2008, that's more than 1 year 7 months ! |
Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2009.01.13 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas
The post was originally made in 2007.
The edit was made in 2008.
So my math and my date are right: Pay attention or go pound sand
Regardless of when the post was made, the issue was released with Revelations II, not when the post was made. The poster had put in a petition to the GM and waited for over a month. You can see this by the following posters responses, made the same day. His edits of the first post have only been to change the thread title, the rest of the content is as it appeared 2007.07.31. Where upon the issue had been open, for over 4 weeks.
Your math is fine, your assumption on the start date is incorrect.
http://myeve.eve-online.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=1490&tid=1
eve online: revelations ii deployment completed!
reported by CCP kieron | 2007.06.19 11:12:43
575 Days.
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2009.01.14 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas
Let's debate semantics some more because you can't admit you're wrong about the May 2008 thing. Irrelevant. The point is whether it's 528 or 575 days it doesn't take that long to get a fix. Now we return you to your regularly scheduled sandcastle.
Wait what. So I was tired (had just woken up) when I saw 7 and my brain said June. woo hoo. I love how you jam in there 'can't admit you were wrong' when I contradicted myself with the hard evidence, (thus proving myself wrong, which is as good or better than admitting it). But it also proved you wrong. If there was no point in the exact number of days to the second, I have no idea why you posted it three times, when you're wrong it's semantics and irrelevant. When I'm wrong I'm not paying attention? I knew you were wrong when I posted, that's why I posted, so I wasn't right either, but it got to the truth eventually.
Getting a fix quite clearly does take this long. Getting a fix or at least resolution shouldn't, but it has.
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2009.01.22 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Raymon James
Originally by: CutsLawn
This is just plain pathetic, ccp wtf? 
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
In Quantum Rise, the clones with the implant plugged in will have it unplugged and returned to their home station so you can at least plug something else in in the interim.
A fix for the implants is still scheduled however we will look into the possibility of reimbursement for those who do not want to wait any longer for a fix.
Sorry for the extremely long wait on this 
take that for what its worth.
About 250 million isk less than it was 18 months ago.
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2009.02.12 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Qual
Originally by: Blih Nox
Originally by: Qual
Implant has been removed form game ....
no sir i've got one in my hangar
implants have been removed from the head of the victims while they fix them (in the next static patch)
ccp would never let us down like you claim
And I have one in my hangar. Not the point. The implant have effectively been removed, just like numerous skills and items haven been over the years. Deal with it and stop the whining.
I don't think that's the point. If Chronotis jumps in the thread and says 'yeah we gave up on these' then that's what happened. At this point fixes for it are coming *soon* every few months, only to not eventuate. I'm not aware of any other item that was LP store sold that has been completely removed, all the others have been at least converted into another item instead.
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2009.02.13 16:30:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Fitz on 13/02/2009 16:31:28
Originally by: Barbara Nichole
How is this a "scam"? If you were observant before your purchase you'd have known the implants weren't working correctly and you could have avoided the purchase. My guess though is that you bought them early while they were broken to save yourself some money.. as they will likely jump in price as soon as they are fixed.
Other similar issues have taken a while but they eventually got fixed.. this is why I figure if it's broken I'll wait.
When most people in this thread bought them, no one knew they didn't work, it took petitioning a GM and waiting quite some time, and eventually the start of this thread, to get the response that 'no they didn't work',
Buying them early cost a HUGE amount of money, they were bought the day the LP store was released. On this day, LP points were worth many many many times what they are (the GI-2's sold for almost 300 million isk). Should these actually be made to work, and be reseeded in the LP store, they will be significantly cheaper than they were on release almost 2 years ago.
It was many many months after that they removed them from the market, and then over a year before they removed them from our heads where they were taking up a valuable implant slot, always a podding away from potentially being lost while never having been useful.
In short, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about; every single thing you said in that post was wrong, terribly.
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2009.03.11 08:43:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Fitz on 11/03/2009 08:43:20
Originally by: Puritalas Frame
Something buried in the Apocrypha patch notes may be of interest:
"Poteque Pharmaceuticals has issued a recall on their Draftsman range of hardwiring implants which were released with severe faults in the neural processors. Players can now sell their Draftsman implants back to NPCs at various stations. The GI-1 can be sold for 25 million ISK and the GI-2 can be sold back for 200 million ISK."
Well if they'd done this what 18 months ago, I would have only lost 175m isk....
GI-2's were selling for 250m isk and GI-1's for 150m isk... Would have been nice to have been at least not worse off after almost two years of patience.
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